I believe that they're inspiring us to care. Just because they use captive and trained animals doesn't mean that they're not trying to send the same message, which is to be conservative with animals and wildlife. All that it means by them using captive animals with fake scenes is that they didn't have the proper resources to do a real shot and I agree that it does protect the real wild animals as well.
I think they're trying to inspire us to care about these allegedly wild animals. However, by trying to make us they they have ended up just deceiving us. They went from showing a documentary about wild animals in their habitats to showing tame animals in a unknown habitat. It defeats the purpose, nothing was real it was all staged.
i think that in these films they are simply deceiving us the audience. they are doing this for a few reasons. one is so that these films can make money, if you have the ability as a film maker to shoot what seems like a true touching story about a mom and daughter whales journey then you are going to get more reaction from the audience than you would if you only showed footage of whales swimming that the audience established no emotional ties to. Also i think they are deceiving us to get accolades. for example the video talked of the 1958 Disney documentary "white Nature" wining an oscar. its easy to wonder if this movie still would have won that oscar if it didnt have parts of the film that were made up or scripted. A final reason they fake these "real" documentaries is to save money and time filming so that they can make more profit from the film.
I think that nature documents are doing both of these things. Because on one side, they are using trained animals and creating scenes that appear real to us but in all reality are just staged to look real. I could see how this illusion would upset people, and maybe even make them feel betrayed by the producers of the film. At the same time, I think that regardless of whether the scenario is real or not, it makes us as the audience care and feel something for the animals which we might not have felt if we had not seen the documentary. Watching animals in their so called "natural" habitat gives us a new understanding for what these animals go through and how they live their life. Even though some of these documentaries may be staged, I still feel as though it does good in the fact that it makes the audience more aware and feel something for the animals that we may not have realized before.
I believe that the film producers are deceiving us for their benefit. The audience gives the film producers so much credit for finding these animals in their natural habitat for nothing. I never once thought of the producers bringing their own animals for a show, or lying to us and telling us that whales finally arrived at a destination when they just find two random whales. I hope not all films are like this. I love watching these kinds of shows and when i hear things like producers deceiving us it makes me upset.
The film producers and directors are definitely deceiving us. Finding out that this is what they are doing to make these films makes it seem very fake. It misleads the audience. If the viewers knew this before they watched any of these documentaries about animals, they would likely have a different opinion on whether to actually decide to watch it or not. Bringing in trained animals, and placing down certain natural items for animals to go to is not what those movies are supposed to be about. They are supposed to be about how animals interact in live. Taking them to an area where they have never been before does not show the truth about what animals do, and how they live.
I believe that even though their intentions are to make us care, they are merely deceiving us. When we see nature videos, we watch them with the full intent to see wild animals in their natural habitats. So if their using trained and captive animals and fake scenery does it still make us care? Yes. Whether they're wild or captive we trust scientists to know how they actually act in the wild and then that is reflected later in the Nature Documentaries. They are still the cute lovable animals we love to see and they are still showing us what it is like for them in the wild. That is the point of these documentaries; to give us a play by play of what actually happens to animals in the wild. Even though the filming and creatures may not exactly be right, the science and information behind it is. So whether we agree with the director's methods or not, we still care about these animals in the films, and we still feel sorry for the animals when they go through hardship.
They are inspiring us to care for the animals because they are using trained animals that have people telling them what to do behind the cameras. But they are also deceiving us because they are lying about some of the points that they are making. In the clip the guy talks about how they put in the credits that they are using animals that are trained. He also says that some of the items used in the movies are just props that they have made or asked to use from different people.
I believe that they are completely deceiving us. Of course this has its benefits because none of the animals are actually harmed but to say that something is a real documentary when really it is a fictional story is not morally correct. If one wants to watch a documentary on wolves, they expect everything the wolves do to be instinct, not manipulated by man. To me, this just doesn't seem right. If one wants to make a successful and real documentary, they should spend as much times as they can studying and video recording these animals until they get interesting enough information to put on the video. The way that they are doing these films are all lies. These people are lying to their audience by putting a "documentary" out there and making their viewers believe that the films are something that they really are not.
Hm... deceiving us? Inspiring us to care? I know I'm the one who posed this question, but I really have no idea.
My first reaction when I saw this news story was frustration. I get so tired of being fed tainted, filtered, tampered with information from the media. (Which, of course, is impossible to avoid, right?) But I had naively thought that maybe, just maybe, the tidbits of nature that they were providing to us might be "true." So, this side of me--the person who's all but begging for a piece of honesty from media producers--thinks this is utter deception. Specifically, I'm thinking of the myth creation of the suicidal lemmings. This animal, essentially, does not exist.
However, I can concede to the point that these films make people care. When I watch Planet Earth, I'm ready to slap on my hiking boots and, somehow go change the world. Rational reaction? No. But do I care? Yes.
The nature documentaries, I think are inspiring us to care. Regardless of the fact they used captive animals and set up fake scenes. It helps us to care for other things then ourselves. To see the true beauty of nature some documentaries have to set up scenes. It gives viewers a sense of what actually occurs. It shouldn't matter if they use captive animals because regardless they are still wild animals. For example, the tiger trainers in Vegas, they tamed the tigers or so they thought, the tigers severely injured one of the trainers. Why? Because the tigers were still wild animals regardless if they were captive or not. The animals in the documentaries still have a little wild in their blood. So maybe we do see the true nature of the animals in each of their documentaries.
In my opinion, the people making these videos are very much so deceiving us. I think by showing us "wild" nature films, but using captive animals there is no factual information being displayed. These movies are supposed to be movies showing us how wild animals act in their natural environment, and by using trained animals this is kind of killing that sense. I don't think the producers have any concern with inspiring us to car, i think that this is all just a commercial money maker. I always wondered how the camera people got so close to the wild animals without them getting scared and running away. Now that i know that most of the animals are captive this sums it up very well. By them making these movies with captive animals they are totally losing so much credibility with the viewers. I think if more people found out that these movies were basically "fake" then i think they would lose a lot of money in the box office or even lose viewers on the television.
They are deceiving us to inspire us to care and it works pretty well. Im completely okay with that. If I never know if its really fake than it doesn't matter. Even if I do know that its fake, this stuff actually does go on in nature so if they give an accurate and realistic portrayal of it, whats the difference if its really trained animals and setup situations. I also completely agree with the notion that using trained animals is actually better because they leave the real wildlife unharmed and unbothered. I have no problem with being deceived in order to be inspired to care.
I think that nature documentaries serve a purpose of trying to inspire people to care for these animals. They present these animals as amazing creatures usually and the people that view these films absolutely love that and it is something that is stuck with them. The film makers are trying to produce a film that makes them money and lets face it without appealing to someone's emotions that is very hard to do. People that enjoy animals will view these films because they care about animals and these films just reinforce that feeling. There is a hidden trouble I feel that comes with these films, and the thought of seeing these loving and caring animals is not really what is out in the wild. We all saw that there are captive animals brought in to shoot and these animals are trained to react a certain way and people start to believe that they act like this in all situations and that is not true. The film makers are inspiring lots of people to care for these animals but are also providing some false information that could hurt them if they are ever found in a situation with them.
I think nature documentaries like the one featured in this video clip are deceiving us and our perception of nature. While I do believe such producers do it for the a good reason, I don't think it is right to stage scenes or use captive animals when filming nature. Sadly, I have to say, it is no better than reality TV. Millions of people each day watch reality TV shows and they believe everything they watch. They think people are really that tense when half of the scenes are scripted of reenacted. Nature documentaries are supposed to help preserve the wonders of nature and reveal the wild life to viewers but these producers are giving an optical allusion towards wild animals and how they really act. These documentaries obviously attract an audience who are truly interested in live nature so in a demanding society, why wouldn't nature documentary producers give their audience what they want?
I never would of thought that the shows on animal planet and such were fake. Producers make it seem so real showing the animals out in the wild. I think that producers are deceiving us because instead of taking the time to film the truth, they are using their money to do what they can to make a good story. Some things that they film are almost like lies. When in the video it talks about the movie "whales" they told a completely fake story. All they cared about was getting audience attention and making somewhat of a movie instead of a documentary.
With the way our society is, I am not one bit surprised buy this at all. "Hollywood" is extremely fake in every aspect. Even reality television is mostly scripted now. We live in a world where everything is based off of money and television is the prime example. If the ratings are low and people are not interested, advertisers don't pay the big bucks. So, in order to make the viewers happy you have to make some things fake and then one thing leads to another, the ratings go up and then the money starts to flow in. In a way they are deceiving us but in reality, it is just a business and like any business people will do anything to be number one. Which in return, deceives those in its path. And if you are to ignorant to realize how scripted hollywood then have been sheltered.
Well, I think the answer is both. These film makers are definitely deceiving us. but by doing this they are inspiring us to care, and they are making it easier on the animals too. Had the films used real wild animals, the animals would have been forced to adapt to the new environment. So using trained animals puts less stress on the animals, and makes life easier and safer for the people around the set. The movies are not going to be quite as influential anymore, but I think that these movies will continue to be made effectively. It was nice to think that these films were true, but now it just seems silly to have thought that was possible.
I believe that they're inspiring us to care. Just because they use captive and trained animals doesn't mean that they're not trying to send the same message, which is to be conservative with animals and wildlife. All that it means by them using captive animals with fake scenes is that they didn't have the proper resources to do a real shot and I agree that it does protect the real wild animals as well.
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ReplyDeleteI think they're trying to inspire us to care about these allegedly wild animals. However, by trying to make us they they have ended up just deceiving us. They went from showing a documentary about wild animals in their habitats to showing tame animals in a unknown habitat. It defeats the purpose, nothing was real it was all staged.
ReplyDeletei think that in these films they are simply deceiving us the audience. they are doing this for a few reasons. one is so that these films can make money, if you have the ability as a film maker to shoot what seems like a true touching story about a mom and daughter whales journey then you are going to get more reaction from the audience than you would if you only showed footage of whales swimming that the audience established no emotional ties to. Also i think they are deceiving us to get accolades. for example the video talked of the 1958 Disney documentary "white Nature" wining an oscar. its easy to wonder if this movie still would have won that oscar if it didnt have parts of the film that were made up or scripted. A final reason they fake these "real" documentaries is to save money and time filming so that they can make more profit from the film.
ReplyDeleteI think that nature documents are doing both of these things. Because on one side, they are using trained animals and creating scenes that appear real to us but in all reality are just staged to look real. I could see how this illusion would upset people, and maybe even make them feel betrayed by the producers of the film. At the same time, I think that regardless of whether the scenario is real or not, it makes us as the audience care and feel something for the animals which we might not have felt if we had not seen the documentary. Watching animals in their so called "natural" habitat gives us a new understanding for what these animals go through and how they live their life. Even though some of these documentaries may be staged, I still feel as though it does good in the fact that it makes the audience more aware and feel something for the animals that we may not have realized before.
ReplyDeleteI believe that the film producers are deceiving us for their benefit. The audience gives the film producers so much credit for finding these animals in their natural habitat for nothing. I never once thought of the producers bringing their own animals for a show, or lying to us and telling us that whales finally arrived at a destination when they just find two random whales. I hope not all films are like this. I love watching these kinds of shows and when i hear things like producers deceiving us it makes me upset.
ReplyDeleteThe film producers and directors are definitely deceiving us. Finding out that this is what they are doing to make these films makes it seem very fake. It misleads the audience. If the viewers knew this before they watched any of these documentaries about animals, they would likely have a different opinion on whether to actually decide to watch it or not. Bringing in trained animals, and placing down certain natural items for animals to go to is not what those movies are supposed to be about. They are supposed to be about how animals interact in live. Taking them to an area where they have never been before does not show the truth about what animals do, and how they live.
ReplyDeleteI believe that even though their intentions are to make us care, they are merely deceiving us. When we see nature videos, we watch them with the full intent to see wild animals in their natural habitats. So if their using trained and captive animals and fake scenery does it still make us care? Yes. Whether they're wild or captive we trust scientists to know how they actually act in the wild and then that is reflected later in the Nature Documentaries. They are still the cute lovable animals we love to see and they are still showing us what it is like for them in the wild. That is the point of these documentaries; to give us a play by play of what actually happens to animals in the wild. Even though the filming and creatures may not exactly be right, the science and information behind it is. So whether we agree with the director's methods or not, we still care about these animals in the films, and we still feel sorry for the animals when they go through hardship.
ReplyDeleteThey are inspiring us to care for the animals because they are using trained animals that have people telling them what to do behind the cameras. But they are also deceiving us because they are lying about some of the points that they are making. In the clip the guy talks about how they put in the credits that they are using animals that are trained. He also says that some of the items used in the movies are just props that they have made or asked to use from different people.
ReplyDeleteI believe that they are completely deceiving us. Of course this has its benefits because none of the animals are actually harmed but to say that something is a real documentary when really it is a fictional story is not morally correct. If one wants to watch a documentary on wolves, they expect everything the wolves do to be instinct, not manipulated by man. To me, this just doesn't seem right. If one wants to make a successful and real documentary, they should spend as much times as they can studying and video recording these animals until they get interesting enough information to put on the video. The way that they are doing these films are all lies. These people are lying to their audience by putting a "documentary" out there and making their viewers believe that the films are something that they really are not.
ReplyDeleteHm... deceiving us? Inspiring us to care? I know I'm the one who posed this question, but I really have no idea.
ReplyDeleteMy first reaction when I saw this news story was frustration. I get so tired of being fed tainted, filtered, tampered with information from the media. (Which, of course, is impossible to avoid, right?) But I had naively thought that maybe, just maybe, the tidbits of nature that they were providing to us might be "true." So, this side of me--the person who's all but begging for a piece of honesty from media producers--thinks this is utter deception. Specifically, I'm thinking of the myth creation of the suicidal lemmings. This animal, essentially, does not exist.
However, I can concede to the point that these films make people care. When I watch Planet Earth, I'm ready to slap on my hiking boots and, somehow go change the world. Rational reaction? No. But do I care? Yes.
The nature documentaries, I think are inspiring us to care. Regardless of the fact they used captive animals and set up fake scenes. It helps us to care for other things then ourselves. To see the true beauty of nature some documentaries have to set up scenes. It gives viewers a sense of what actually occurs. It shouldn't matter if they use captive animals because regardless they are still wild animals. For example, the tiger trainers in Vegas, they tamed the tigers or so they thought, the tigers severely injured one of the trainers. Why? Because the tigers were still wild animals regardless if they were captive or not. The animals in the documentaries still have a little wild in their blood. So maybe we do see the true nature of the animals in each of their documentaries.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the people making these videos are very much so deceiving us. I think by showing us "wild" nature films, but using captive animals there is no factual information being displayed. These movies are supposed to be movies showing us how wild animals act in their natural environment, and by using trained animals this is kind of killing that sense. I don't think the producers have any concern with inspiring us to car, i think that this is all just a commercial money maker. I always wondered how the camera people got so close to the wild animals without them getting scared and running away. Now that i know that most of the animals are captive this sums it up very well. By them making these movies with captive animals they are totally losing so much credibility with the viewers. I think if more people found out that these movies were basically "fake" then i think they would lose a lot of money in the box office or even lose viewers on the television.
ReplyDeleteThey are deceiving us to inspire us to care and it works pretty well. Im completely okay with that. If I never know if its really fake than it doesn't matter. Even if I do know that its fake, this stuff actually does go on in nature so if they give an accurate and realistic portrayal of it, whats the difference if its really trained animals and setup situations. I also completely agree with the notion that using trained animals is actually better because they leave the real wildlife unharmed and unbothered. I have no problem with being deceived in order to be inspired to care.
ReplyDeleteI think that nature documentaries serve a purpose of trying to inspire people to care for these animals. They present these animals as amazing creatures usually and the people that view these films absolutely love that and it is something that is stuck with them. The film makers are trying to produce a film that makes them money and lets face it without appealing to someone's emotions that is very hard to do. People that enjoy animals will view these films because they care about animals and these films just reinforce that feeling. There is a hidden trouble I feel that comes with these films, and the thought of seeing these loving and caring animals is not really what is out in the wild. We all saw that there are captive animals brought in to shoot and these animals are trained to react a certain way and people start to believe that they act like this in all situations and that is not true. The film makers are inspiring lots of people to care for these animals but are also providing some false information that could hurt them if they are ever found in a situation with them.
ReplyDeleteI think nature documentaries like the one featured in this video clip are deceiving us and our perception of nature. While I do believe such producers do it for the a good reason, I don't think it is right to stage scenes or use captive animals when filming nature. Sadly, I have to say, it is no better than reality TV. Millions of people each day watch reality TV shows and they believe everything they watch. They think people are really that tense when half of the scenes are scripted of reenacted. Nature documentaries are supposed to help preserve the wonders of nature and reveal the wild life to viewers but these producers are giving an optical allusion towards wild animals and how they really act. These documentaries obviously attract an audience who are truly interested in live nature so in a demanding society, why wouldn't nature documentary producers give their audience what they want?
ReplyDeleteI never would of thought that the shows on animal planet and such were fake. Producers make it seem so real showing the animals out in the wild. I think that producers are deceiving us because instead of taking the time to film the truth, they are using their money to do what they can to make a good story. Some things that they film are almost like lies. When in the video it talks about the movie "whales" they told a completely fake story. All they cared about was getting audience attention and making somewhat of a movie instead of a documentary.
ReplyDeleteWith the way our society is, I am not one bit surprised buy this at all. "Hollywood" is extremely fake in every aspect. Even reality television is mostly scripted now. We live in a world where everything is based off of money and television is the prime example. If the ratings are low and people are not interested, advertisers don't pay the big bucks. So, in order to make the viewers happy you have to make some things fake and then one thing leads to another, the ratings go up and then the money starts to flow in. In a way they are deceiving us but in reality, it is just a business and like any business people will do anything to be number one. Which in return, deceives those in its path. And if you are to ignorant to realize how scripted hollywood then have been sheltered.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think the answer is both. These film makers are definitely deceiving us. but by doing this they are inspiring us to care, and they are making it easier on the animals too. Had the films used real wild animals, the animals would have been forced to adapt to the new environment. So using trained animals puts less stress on the animals, and makes life easier and safer for the people around the set. The movies are not going to be quite as influential anymore, but I think that these movies will continue to be made effectively. It was nice to think that these films were true, but now it just seems silly to have thought that was possible.
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